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Post by Rogue Titan on Jul 26, 2015 0:08:58 GMT -5
This is a given. They are the physically weaker gender, as well as the mentally weaker gender. They are incapable of performing "complex" tasks such as parallel parking. They cry more often than men and are much more likely to break down. Females are more likely to spout greedy BS that only favours them, not anyone else. Concepts such as "social justice" or "feminism". Females are inherently failures at leadership, seeing as the female mindset does not focus on winning, but rather, "making compromises". That's because they are unwilling to fight. They fear opposition. They are more likely to listen to the strongest male, or follow societal guidelines. That's why peer pressure has a more adverse effect on females. That's also why Jewish propaganda easily reaches them. They think that if this is what everyone else is doing, they should do it, too. That's why you got faggot and freakshow degenerates on television, figures like Jazz Jennings or Sarah Silverman. Plus racemixing.
not to mention that the feminine mind lacks the ability to argue, and is easily willing to resort to ad hominem or ignoring the point altogether.
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Post by Rogue Titan on Jul 26, 2015 17:29:58 GMT -5
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 27, 2015 16:22:27 GMT -5
Biology can't into social structures, sorry.
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Post by nerd on Jul 27, 2015 21:39:30 GMT -5
Biology can't into social structures, sorry.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 29, 2015 5:57:35 GMT -5
Biology can't into social structures, sorry. Why not be reasonable, look at the mounting evidence that there are some biological factors that influence human biases. I'm not arguing Women are inherently inferior but I am arguing that there are some biological and psychological differences between men and women that impact on a societal level. For a start watch Hjernevask. Its a documentary where a Norwegian comedian looked into why, after years of topping the list of most equal country there were still huge splits in between the genders in employment. The Nordic gender institute argued it was societal norms pressing the genders into different roles and the flip side, a number of British and american scientists argued implicit biological influences. The Nordic gender institute was closed not long after...
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 29, 2015 8:42:50 GMT -5
Why not be reasonable, look at the mounting evidence that there are some biological factors that influence human biases. I'm not arguing Women are inherently inferior but I am arguing that there are some biological and psychological differences between men and women that impact on a societal level. For a start watch Hjernevask. Its a documentary where a Norwegian comedian looked into why, after years of topping the list of most equal country there were still huge splits in between the genders in employment. The Nordic gender institute argued it was societal norms pressing the genders into different roles and the flip side, a number of British and american scientists argued implicit biological influences. The Nordic gender institute was closed not long after... Biological factors might once have influenced social behavior, but mankind is so advanced, that social factors itself influence social behavior. That's what makes us different from animals.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 29, 2015 9:12:45 GMT -5
Why not be reasonable, look at the mounting evidence that there are some biological factors that influence human biases. I'm not arguing Women are inherently inferior but I am arguing that there are some biological and psychological differences between men and women that impact on a societal level. For a start watch Hjernevask. Its a documentary where a Norwegian comedian looked into why, after years of topping the list of most equal country there were still huge splits in between the genders in employment. The Nordic gender institute argued it was societal norms pressing the genders into different roles and the flip side, a number of British and american scientists argued implicit biological influences. The Nordic gender institute was closed not long after... Biological factors might once have influenced social behavior, but mankind is so advanced, that social factors itself influence social behavior. That's what makes us different from animals. I'm not on about societal advancements i'm on about innate biological drives. You wrongly assume that because we can think that somehow excludes from biological drives. I find it very hard to believe that women are seen as more caring than men just because society says its like that, if you look at if from the biological prospective of a woman should be caring because her biological function is to have children. Biologically men are more expendable than women hence they tend to do the more dangerous things that are needed to be done. This even plays out today in the employment market. Even in countries where nothing is inherently stopping people, why are there so few male nurses? Why are there so few women lumberjacks? Why do women tend to go into more caring based jobs while men will go int jobs with a lot more occupational hazards?
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 29, 2015 9:35:25 GMT -5
Biological factors might once have influenced social behavior, but mankind is so advanced, that social factors itself influence social behavior. That's what makes us different from animals. I'm not on about societal advancements i'm on about innate biological drives. You wrongly assume that because we can think that somehow excludes from biological drives. I find it very hard to believe that women are seen as more caring than men just because society says its like that, if you look at if from the biological prospective of a woman should be caring because her biological function is to have children. Biologically men are more expendable than women hence they tend to do the more dangerous things that are needed to be done. This even plays out today in the employment market. Even in countries where nothing is inherently stopping people, why are there so few male nurses? Why are there so few women lumberjacks? Why do women tend to go into more caring based jobs while men will go int jobs with a lot more occupational hazards? That we can think excludes biological drives. Proof? Not all men are rapists. And not all men have dangerous jobs. Not all women are caring. You see humanity is getting rid of its biological roots - a revolution instead of evolution.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 29, 2015 9:48:44 GMT -5
I'm not on about societal advancements i'm on about innate biological drives. You wrongly assume that because we can think that somehow excludes from biological drives. I find it very hard to believe that women are seen as more caring than men just because society says its like that, if you look at if from the biological prospective of a woman should be caring because her biological function is to have children. Biologically men are more expendable than women hence they tend to do the more dangerous things that are needed to be done. This even plays out today in the employment market. Even in countries where nothing is inherently stopping people, why are there so few male nurses? Why are there so few women lumberjacks? Why do women tend to go into more caring based jobs while men will go int jobs with a lot more occupational hazards? That we can think excludes biological drives. Proof? Not all men are rapists. And not all men have dangerous jobs. Not all women are caring. You see humanity is getting rid of its biological roots - a revolution instead of evolution. Can go over that and point out where I said those drives are all consuming and not just trends based off of subconscious drives? EDIT: If things like gender roles are societal in nature why do monkeys captive and wild and even chimpanzees display gender specific toy preferences? sources: news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/09/101220-chimpanzees-play-nature-nurture-science-animals-evolution/www.newscientist.com/article/dn13596-male-monkeys-prefer-boys-toys/animalwise.org/2012/01/26/born-this-way-gender-based-toy-preferences-in-primates/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755553/Why would things as base as rhesus monkeys display the SAME gender toy choices as human children? They have no complex society saying men are x females are y they don't have parents expecting them to act a certain way and they most certainly don't have gendered adverts for toys on tv, Why is it they have same biases as people do? If these are biological why cant there be other implicit biological subtleties that influence society?
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Post by crusader583 on Jul 29, 2015 11:46:51 GMT -5
Why is this a thread, even.. In modern society, such as in the United States, women can do 90% or more of any job available. I'm not talking jobs where a lot of muscle is needed, such as construction, etc, I'm talking places like medicine, law, politics, education, science, and a host of other professions. What chromosomes you carry is irrelevant to your ability to function in the jobs I listed. Hell even the military is a viable option because the military isn't 100% Boots on the ground Army/Marines. Women could pilot aircraft just as well as men, for example. They can train as medics or do a whole array of functions on base.
I'm not a feminist by any means but these are my two cents, yo.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 29, 2015 12:05:17 GMT -5
Why is this a thread, even.. In modern society, such as in the United States, women can do 90% or more of any job available. I'm not talking jobs where a lot of muscle is needed, such as construction, etc, I'm talking places like medicine, law, politics, education, science, and a host of other professions. What chromosomes you carry is irrelevant to your ability to function in the jobs I listed. Hell even the military is a viable option because the military isn't 100% Boots on the ground Army/Marines. Women could pilot aircraft just as well as men, for example. They can train as medics or do a whole array of functions on base. I'm not a feminist by any means but these are my two cents, yo. I agree with you, I just disagree with breuning over whether women and men are different biologically or whether its exclusively society telling people what to be based on gender. I personally think there are some biological biases that tend to drive males to want to do one thing and female another.
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 30, 2015 5:34:27 GMT -5
I told you, that is what differs us from animals. We are not fully driven by our biological drives anymore, unlike monkeys, they are animals - their social component of thinking is just developed enough. And of course we are still influenced by our biological drives especially in child age, since thinking capabilities lack there. But modern humans differ far too much from anything else we can observe in nature to compare it to anything else we can observe in nature. We are the only highly sapient and cultured species, capable of self-reflection and empathy. We've built up incredibly complex social structures which control our lives. If it was just the biological drives, we'd see a lot of alpha males and we'd all probably still live in stone age conditions. Your very ability to think about whether females and males behave different because of biological drives proves that it is not like that. Both females and males (should) think about what they are doing and the consequences for themselves and for others. And everybody feels different about the actions and the consequences, regardless of gender. Seriously, take feminazis for example - I've never seen women act so "male". And actually parents just give their children the toys that are connoted to their gender - how else would the children get the toys? That's how we differ from animals. If you give a girl the choice between a car and a puppet, there is a 50/50 chance for the girl to take the car instead of the puppet. We are thinking individuals with our own preferences. Girls get puppets, preferably a whole family of puppets: Father, Mother, Child. All put together in a nice suburban house. They are trained to fulfill their societal role as mother and housewife. Boys get cars and spaceships, robots, toyguns, building blocks etc. Their curiosity and adventurousness maybe even a slight amount of power-hunger is supposed to get powered by these. They are trained to fulfill their societal role as the strong man who works hard, becomes a soldier/architect/scientist/engineer/etc. . And of course if parents think that is right (I think most American parents don't want their boy to play with barbie dolls), then they will give the children the toys that are connected to their gender, not letting the children decide.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 30, 2015 6:01:34 GMT -5
I told you, that is what differs us from animals. We are not fully driven by our biological drives anymore, unlike monkeys, they are animals - their social component of thinking is just developed enough. And of course we are still influenced by our biological drives especially in child age, since thinking capabilities lack there. But modern humans differ far too much from anything else we can observe in nature to compare it to anything else we can observe in nature. We are the only highly sapient and cultured species, capable of self-reflection and empathy. We've built up incredibly complex social structures which control our lives. If it was just the biological drives, we'd see a lot of alpha males and we'd all probably still live in stone age conditions. Your very ability to think about whether females and males behave different because of biological drives proves that it is not like that. Both females and males (should) think about what they are doing and the consequences for themselves and for others. And everybody feels different about the actions and the consequences, regardless of gender. Seriously, take feminazis for example - I've never seen women act so "male". And actually parents just give their children the toys that are connoted to their gender - how else would the children get the toys? That's how we differ from animals. If you give a girl the choice between a car and a puppet, there is a 50/50 chance for the girl to take the car instead of the puppet. We are thinking individuals with our own preferences. Girls get puppets, preferably a whole family of puppets: Father, Mother, Child. All put together in a nice suburban house. They are trained to fulfill their societal role as mother and housewife. Boys get cars and spaceships, robots, toyguns, building blocks etc. Their curiosity and adventurousness maybe even a slight amount of power-hunger is supposed to get powered by these. They are trained to fulfill their societal role as the strong man who works hard, becomes a soldier/architect/scientist/engineer/etc. . And of course if parents think that is right (I think most American parents don't want their boy to play with barbie dolls), then they will give the children the toys that are connected to their gender, not letting the children decide. You disregarded my posted evidence then refute it with the same points my evidence disproves?
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 30, 2015 9:15:58 GMT -5
I told you, that is what differs us from animals. We are not fully driven by our biological drives anymore, unlike monkeys, they are animals - their social component of thinking is just developed enough. And of course we are still influenced by our biological drives especially in child age, since thinking capabilities lack there. But modern humans differ far too much from anything else we can observe in nature to compare it to anything else we can observe in nature. We are the only highly sapient and cultured species, capable of self-reflection and empathy. We've built up incredibly complex social structures which control our lives. If it was just the biological drives, we'd see a lot of alpha males and we'd all probably still live in stone age conditions. Your very ability to think about whether females and males behave different because of biological drives proves that it is not like that. Both females and males (should) think about what they are doing and the consequences for themselves and for others. And everybody feels different about the actions and the consequences, regardless of gender. Seriously, take feminazis for example - I've never seen women act so "male". And actually parents just give their children the toys that are connoted to their gender - how else would the children get the toys? That's how we differ from animals. If you give a girl the choice between a car and a puppet, there is a 50/50 chance for the girl to take the car instead of the puppet. We are thinking individuals with our own preferences. Girls get puppets, preferably a whole family of puppets: Father, Mother, Child. All put together in a nice suburban house. They are trained to fulfill their societal role as mother and housewife. Boys get cars and spaceships, robots, toyguns, building blocks etc. Their curiosity and adventurousness maybe even a slight amount of power-hunger is supposed to get powered by these. They are trained to fulfill their societal role as the strong man who works hard, becomes a soldier/architect/scientist/engineer/etc. . And of course if parents think that is right (I think most American parents don't want their boy to play with barbie dolls), then they will give the children the toys that are connected to their gender, not letting the children decide. You disregarded my posted evidence then refute it with the same points my evidence disproves? I have read your posted evidence, and I didn't refute it with the same points your evidence disproves, no I think that evidence is true, but only for monkeys. You can't simplify human behavior into biological determination, there are far more factors. Biological determination is ONE factor and simply not the most influencing factor - that's what I was trying to explain.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 30, 2015 9:51:23 GMT -5
You disregarded my posted evidence then refute it with the same points my evidence disproves? I have read your posted evidence, and I didn't refute it with the same points your evidence disproves, no I think that evidence is true, but only for monkeys. You can't simplify human behavior into biological determination, there are far more factors. Biological determination is ONE factor and simply not the most influencing factor - that's what I was trying to explain. The name of one of the papers and I quote "Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of children" I don't disagree there definite social impacts to how we behave. I'm saying aspects of society itself are a reflection of our biology. Why is it practically every culture we know of has or has historically had men leading? Ancient Greece and Rome, Romes first debatable empress was in the 6th century ad. Nearing 1000 years after Rome was founded, India and China, Egypt made there women pharaohs style themselves as men. The Inca never had a female Sapa Inca, the Aztecs never had an empress. Medieval European monarchs were all predominantly Men. Why is it practically everywhere Even the uncontacted pre-Columbian socities of the Americas all had male dominated societies? If you say gender roles are exclusively societal why is it even in uncontacted areas completely shut off from contact with the old world and thus free from its influence they just happen to stumble upon the same power system and use it?
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 30, 2015 12:15:16 GMT -5
I have read your posted evidence, and I didn't refute it with the same points your evidence disproves, no I think that evidence is true, but only for monkeys. You can't simplify human behavior into biological determination, there are far more factors. Biological determination is ONE factor and simply not the most influencing factor - that's what I was trying to explain. The name of one of the papers and I quote "Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of children" I don't disagree there definite social impacts to how we behave. I'm saying aspects of society itself are a reflection of our biology. Why is it practically every culture we know of has or has historically had men leading? Ancient Greece and Rome, Romes first debatable empress was in the 6th century ad. Nearing 1000 years after Rome was founded, India and China, Egypt made there women pharaohs style themselves as men. The Inca never had a female Sapa Inca, the Aztecs never had an empress. Medieval European monarchs were all predominantly Men. Why is it practically everywhere Even the uncontacted pre-Columbian socities of the Americas all had male dominated societies? If you say gender roles are exclusively societal why is it even in uncontacted areas completely shut off from contact with the old world and thus free from its influence they just happen to stumble upon the same power system and use it? I never said they are completely societal, I said the are biological and society just used, kinda "borrowed" these gender roles. But since society is developing these roles change, we aren't dependent on our biological background anymore as we can think. Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany. Society progresses constantly. Races and genders will become more and more equal. History proves it.
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Post by brett0007 on Jul 30, 2015 14:06:30 GMT -5
The name of one of the papers and I quote "Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of children" I don't disagree there definite social impacts to how we behave. I'm saying aspects of society itself are a reflection of our biology. Why is it practically every culture we know of has or has historically had men leading? Ancient Greece and Rome, Romes first debatable empress was in the 6th century ad. Nearing 1000 years after Rome was founded, India and China, Egypt made there women pharaohs style themselves as men. The Inca never had a female Sapa Inca, the Aztecs never had an empress. Medieval European monarchs were all predominantly Men. Why is it practically everywhere Even the uncontacted pre-Columbian socities of the Americas all had male dominated societies? If you say gender roles are exclusively societal why is it even in uncontacted areas completely shut off from contact with the old world and thus free from its influence they just happen to stumble upon the same power system and use it? I never said they are completely societal, I said the are biological and society just used, kinda "borrowed" these gender roles. But since society is developing these roles change, we aren't dependent on our biological background anymore as we can think. Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany. Society progresses constantly. Races and genders will become more and more equal. History proves it. Your being very naive in thinking we can completely escape our inherent biology, you forget we are still just animals under the exact same rules and evolutionary pressures as every life form on this planet, Our ability to think does not somehow exclude us from evolutionary pressures and subconcious biological drives. One example is strippers and lap dancers during there periods earn more tips than those on the pill. Also watch the fucking video. It explains what i'm trying to say far better than I can www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200709/the-strippers-secret
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Post by Comrade Breuning on Jul 31, 2015 4:36:45 GMT -5
I never said they are completely societal, I said the are biological and society just used, kinda "borrowed" these gender roles. But since society is developing these roles change, we aren't dependent on our biological background anymore as we can think. Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany. Society progresses constantly. Races and genders will become more and more equal. History proves it. Your being very naive in thinking we can completely escape our inherent biology, you forget we are still just animals under the exact same rules and evolutionary pressures as every life form on this planet, Our ability to think does not somehow exclude us from evolutionary pressures and subconcious biological drives. One example is strippers and lap dancers during there periods earn more tips than those on the pill. Also watch the fucking video. It explains what i'm trying to say far better than I can www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200709/the-strippers-secret"Brainwash" tin-foil defenses detected shutting down evil commie mind control rays again, i never said we can completely escape them - i just said that society is a far bigger factor for our behavior nowadays. do you understand?
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Post by crusader583 on Jul 31, 2015 14:16:44 GMT -5
I think the fact that this place is 92% male kind of puts a bias on a thread topic like this
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Post by Vega Verde on Aug 9, 2015 11:50:59 GMT -5
I think the fact that this place is 92% male kind of puts a bias on a thread topic like this This is a troll thread, you know. Oh and also chromosomes don't determine one's gender. Just in case you didn't know. I thought you would have known because of that one friend you were always talking about. I don't even think he's real... You're just making these things up now.
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Post by brett0007 on Aug 10, 2015 10:41:15 GMT -5
I think the fact that this place is 92% male kind of puts a bias on a thread topic like this This is a troll thread, you know. Oh and also chromosomes don't determine one's gender. Just in case you didn't know. I thought you would have known because of that one friend you were always talking about. I don't even think he's real... You're just making these things up now. Coming from you that's a fucking hoot
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Post by Vega Verde on Aug 10, 2015 18:50:20 GMT -5
This is a troll thread, you know. Oh and also chromosomes don't determine one's gender. Just in case you didn't know. I thought you would have known because of that one friend you were always talking about. I don't even think he's real... You're just making these things up now. Coming from you that's a fucking hoot Look who's talking, Nazi boy who pretends he had brain cancer or something for attention.
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Post by brett0007 on Aug 10, 2015 18:57:54 GMT -5
Coming from you that's a fucking hoot Look who's talking, Nazi boy who pretends he had brain cancer or something for attention. >naziGodwin's law in action kids.
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Post by nerd on Aug 10, 2015 19:12:52 GMT -5
Look who's talking, Nazi boy who pretends he had brain cancer or something for attention. >naziGodwin's law in action kids. godwins law isn't a fallacy y o u f u c k i n g d u m b a s s
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Post by brett0007 on Aug 10, 2015 19:15:43 GMT -5
>naziGodwin's law in action kids. godwins law isn't a fallacy y o u f u c k i n g d u m b a s s1/10 try harder
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Post by Vega Verde on Aug 10, 2015 19:21:18 GMT -5
Look who's talking, Nazi boy who pretends he had brain cancer or something for attention. >naziGodwin's law in action kids. Doesn't mean you're not one, or at least similar to one.
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Post by brett0007 on Aug 10, 2015 19:24:54 GMT -5
>naziGodwin's law in action kids. Doesn't mean you're not one, or at least similar to one. Ill play devils advocate, if I am a a nazi, what bearing does that have on my arguments?
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Post by Vega Verde on Aug 10, 2015 19:26:51 GMT -5
Doesn't mean you're not one, or at least similar to one. Ill play devils advocate, if I am a a nazi, what bearing does that have on my arguments? What in the hell does that have to do with anything? We weren't having a debate. We were just bickering like little children.
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Post by brett0007 on Aug 10, 2015 19:37:24 GMT -5
Ill play devils advocate, if I am a a nazi, what bearing does that have on my arguments? What in the hell does that have to do with anything? We weren't having a debate. We were just bickering like little children. I'm just asking. since you're so keen to to label me a nazi.
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Post by Funkwalrus on Aug 11, 2015 13:46:40 GMT -5
brett hates jews
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