Fallacies and how not to be a dumbass
Jul 30, 2015 0:55:19 GMT -5
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Post by nerd on Jul 30, 2015 0:55:19 GMT -5
Given the concept of this forum it is inevitable that eventually a member will sperg out about fallacies. However, like most New Atheists and the Far Right, they will fuck up their fallacies and use a false definition to their advantage. I am going to tell you what these fallacies mean and how not to make a fool of yourself while calling someone out for the evil heinous crime of committing a logical fallacy (just remember - claiming someone is wrong JUST because they preformed a fallacy is a fallacy in it of itself.)
Strawman
The worst offender.
Typical use:
Theist: I disagree with you.
New Atheist: Stupid fundie you are literally strawmanning me fundie!!!
In pretty much every debate circle, the word strawman has lost its meaning. It has quite literally become just a word for "you are wrong" and even in some circumstances, "you disagree with me."
What it actually means:
Strawman means misrepresenting someone's response to make it easier to attack. Example:
Democrat: We should increase healthcare funding.
Republican: Why do you want to decrease military spending?
How to fix your problem:
Don't even bother with the word 'strawman.' It's already lost it's purpose, at least in my opinion. Just say something like "you are misrepresenting my opinion" - you'll look smart and won't be using a buzzword.
Ad Hominem
I really wish I didn't have to write this one.
Okay so fuck formatting, I am just going to get to the point. People are fucking pussies and will whine "Muh hominem!!!" at any criticism they see. Ad Hominem isn't for every insult ever, if I call you a fucking moron, it still wouldn't be ADH. ADH is only reserved for claiming that someone's opinion is wrong because of their character or a trait.
Not ad hominem:
Neo-Nazi: Jews use circumcision to give Aryan children STDs.
Anti-Fa: You're a fucking idiot.
Ad hominem:
Anti-Fa: Republicans are literally fascist Nazis.
Neo-Nazi: You are anti-fa, so therefore you are wrong.
No True Scotsman
Literally Stalin ☭
Typical use:
Leftist: Hitler was not a socialist because he promoted private property.
Rightist: No true scotsman!!!!!
NTS has become the reply to every claim of "x is not a true y" even if the claim is backed up by proof or is undeniably true.
What it actually means:
NTS is indeed someone claiming that "x is not a true y..." WITHOUT EVIDENCE. If it is backed up by proof then it is not a fallacy.
How to fix your problem:
Stop acting like a manchild whenever someone says X is not a true Y. Literally that's it.
So those are the big 3 of fallacies that I hate because spergs overuse them for everything. Maybe once the Reddit/4chan atheists and liberals find other fallacies to kill, I'll put them here but for now quit whining over these 3, plsthnx.
Strawman
The worst offender.
Typical use:
Theist: I disagree with you.
New Atheist: Stupid fundie you are literally strawmanning me fundie!!!
In pretty much every debate circle, the word strawman has lost its meaning. It has quite literally become just a word for "you are wrong" and even in some circumstances, "you disagree with me."
What it actually means:
Strawman means misrepresenting someone's response to make it easier to attack. Example:
Democrat: We should increase healthcare funding.
Republican: Why do you want to decrease military spending?
How to fix your problem:
Don't even bother with the word 'strawman.' It's already lost it's purpose, at least in my opinion. Just say something like "you are misrepresenting my opinion" - you'll look smart and won't be using a buzzword.
Ad Hominem
I really wish I didn't have to write this one.
Okay so fuck formatting, I am just going to get to the point. People are fucking pussies and will whine "Muh hominem!!!" at any criticism they see. Ad Hominem isn't for every insult ever, if I call you a fucking moron, it still wouldn't be ADH. ADH is only reserved for claiming that someone's opinion is wrong because of their character or a trait.
Not ad hominem:
Neo-Nazi: Jews use circumcision to give Aryan children STDs.
Anti-Fa: You're a fucking idiot.
Ad hominem:
Anti-Fa: Republicans are literally fascist Nazis.
Neo-Nazi: You are anti-fa, so therefore you are wrong.
No True Scotsman
Literally Stalin ☭
Typical use:
Leftist: Hitler was not a socialist because he promoted private property.
Rightist: No true scotsman!!!!!
NTS has become the reply to every claim of "x is not a true y" even if the claim is backed up by proof or is undeniably true.
What it actually means:
NTS is indeed someone claiming that "x is not a true y..." WITHOUT EVIDENCE. If it is backed up by proof then it is not a fallacy.
How to fix your problem:
Stop acting like a manchild whenever someone says X is not a true Y. Literally that's it.
So those are the big 3 of fallacies that I hate because spergs overuse them for everything. Maybe once the Reddit/4chan atheists and liberals find other fallacies to kill, I'll put them here but for now quit whining over these 3, plsthnx.